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    Greg and Beth

    the political and personal musings of two
    mountaineers living in west-central Florida
     
    Coronal Mass Ejections Comment
    Gregory Morris, 10/30/03 3:45:45 pm
    Whew! SOHO

    See! This is proof that tax money given to science is more useful than tax money given to the arts! Think about it... the scientists are happy, as they get to collect huge piles of data. And look at the art! I'm sorry, but there simply aren't any artists out there that can match what nature can create on its own. We just need expensive spacecraft with high tech sensors to capture it! ...SOHO is only one example... Everyone has seen the pictures taken by hubble (since it got fixed at least.) Monet can bugger off... NASA has got him beat. Water lilies and haystacks compared to Extreme Ultraviolet pictures of Coronal Mass Ejections, and High Resolution images of the Horse Head Nebula... Come one now!

    If we just give all of our tax dollars to NASA, I'm sure things will work out. I'm sure they'd be able to figure out how to do anything we needed using lasers, robots and high power rockets. Besides these lovely pictures, think of what else NASA has given us... theres velcro, heat proof ceramic tiles, ... and velcro! I'm sure there are other things too, but you kinda get stuck on velcro.... (har har, get it?)

    Now don't get me wrong, I think that we still need duct tape to fix all of our small problems, but for the big stuff, we need massive engineering projects.

    Oh well, I have 15 minutes until my data mining class starts, and I figure it will do me well to start thinking about data-mining related stuff. Of course I'd bet five bucks that my professor will take the first 15 minutes of class to talk about these two big solar flares, and probably even show us video of it.

    So I'll just keep my head right where it belongs: up in the clouds, gazing skyward.

    [Comments are closed after a month.]

    Re: Coronal Mass Ejections
    jesse, 10/30/03 4:04:56 pm
    while i completely understand your interest in these kinds of photos (of course space photos are cool. there's nothing else like them!), you're totally understating the contribution of art to our society.

    granted, some of the contemporary art being made today is more about artistic intention than actual statement or accomplishment, but beating up on Monet? come on now...the guy can't even defend himself, leaving me to do it...
    Re: Coronal Mass Ejections
    monica, 10/30/03 4:09:43 pm
    one thing you need to know about greg, jesse, is that he's not serious. ever.

    that said, this is cool. pictures of the sun are pretty. especially if they're in colors.
    Re: Re: Coronal Mass Ejections
    Gregory Morris, 10/31/03 10:02:47 am
    I'm not serious? Is that so? No, I really am serious. Maybe not about cutting funding for the arts per se, just about giving more funding to science, and that money has to come from somewhere (other than getting new office furniture for government officials.)

    And I'm sorry if I can't appreciate Monet as much as his zealot loyalists do, but he was half blind, and painted the same pictures over and over. Ok, I know what you'll say about that statement... Whatever. He may have been a genious, but he is a dimwit compared to good ol' mommy nature.

    Anyway, I only used Monet as an example because his work is popular, and well thought of through out the world of art. On the other hand, Jesse is right about most modern artists making "art" for the sake of shallow social statements, rather than any actual artistic statement or aesthetic beauty. (Lets try not to get into that objective/subjective aesthetics debate... I'm just trying to make a point here.)

    To respond to Jesse's point about my understatement of art's contribution to our society... The best "art", historically, has not been government funded. That might be a bold statement, but I think it is backed up by the huge array of spectacular church funded, or privately funded art.

    Re: Re: Re: Coronal Mass Ejections
    joe, 10/31/03 11:15:24 am
    dude, lay off the crack.
    Re: Coronal Mass Ejections
    monica, 11/2/03 10:35:42 pm
    ok, maybe "ever" was an overstatement. i just needed to get jesse to understand where you're coming from. specifically, the arguing for the sake of it. which you can't deny that you do all the damn time.

    but when i saw jesse this weekend, the first thing he said to me was, "so, greg and beth." he loves you guys.
    Re: Re: Coronal Mass Ejections
    Gregory Morris, 11/3/03 12:50:24 pm
    I'm glad to know jesse loves us.

    You assume I am arguing for the sake of argument all the time. But you are wrong (thats irony there in case you missed it.) Seriously, its only about 99% of the time. That other 1% consists of meaningful progressive arguments.

    On that same note, at least I'm not arguing over who is hotter, Britney or Madonna (neither of them, actually, Marilyn Monroe is the hottest, followed closely by Angelina Jolie.) What I mean is, at least when I argue its generally not about trivial things... Or at least stupid things.

    Re: Re: Re: Coronal Mass Ejections
    monica, 11/4/03 7:22:46 am
    i don't see how the trivialness of the topic relates to whether you're invested in what you're arguing about.

    but fine, that's what i meant.
    Re: Re: Re: Re: Coronal Mass Ejections
    Gregory Morris, 11/4/03 9:21:23 am
    You're right. But the trivialness of the topic does relate to whether or not I care if someone listens to what I have to say. So if I start an argument about something trivial, and nobody argues back, I don't care, and go on with life. But if its an important issue, and my spider senses tell me that someone is shying away from it just because they are either too stupid to back up an opposing argument, or they are simply so convinced I am wrong that they feel arguing is pointless, then I might seek more strategic measures to lure them into the argument they (religious fundamentalists, for example) don't want to have.
    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Coronal Mass Ejections
    joe, 11/4/03 11:03:29 am
    again, i reiterate. lay off the crack.
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