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    Greg and Beth

    the political and personal musings of two
    mountaineers living in west-central Florida
     
    Response to Robb Comment
    Gregory Morris, 1/3/08 2:43:46 pm
    Robb suggests a reasonable compromise. Basically, if you can prove you already have a gun, the mandatory waiting period would no longer apply, since apparently the "goal" of the waiting period is to prevent "crimes of passion".

    How about just amending the 4473 to say "I really, really promise I'm not pissed off right now and just buying a gun to teach that cheating whore a lesson." Note both the irony and tongue-in-cheekiness of that statement... and also how putting a statement like that on the 4473 would do about as much good as a waiting period. Ooh, ooh, better yet: "I understand that commission of a crime with a firearm is a crime (write out yes or no)."

    Actually, what frustrates me more than the stupidity of a mandatory waiting period in Florida is that it is in the STATE CONSTITUTION! Under Article I, Section 8 titled, "Right to Bear Arms". No joke. AND It took 60% of BOTH houses of the Legislature, PLUS 60% of voting Floridians to vote YES for it. Floridians. In the "Gunshine State". The Pioneers of Right to Carry and the Castle Doctrine. Amazing.

    Thankfully, this doesn't affect CWP holders. Of course, that just means that if you are a collector and don't want to wait up to a week to purchase a firearm, you have to notify the state that you are a gun owner, send them fingerprints to run through the FBI, along with a mug shot and $117, then wait 3 months for permission (or not.)

    I like Robb's idea of being able to say "look, I have this gun, so the 'cooling off' period clearly doesn't apply to me". But the national anti-gun organizations (I don't think there are any state-level groups with any power in Tallahassee) would make it a serious pain in the ass to get something like this passed. I figure they would say "OK, let's just exempt people with firearms owner registration cards from the waiting period", and viola, you have a de-facto registry. You would think that would never fly down here, but stranger things have happened. (Lesson: reasonable gun control isn't.)

    The point is, there was a massive failure to educate voters back when the constitution was amended. This is doubly bad, because it is extremely hard to change the constitution back to what it should be. In the future, we need to focus on voter education at a state level, otherwise the anti-rights liberals will sneak things like this in, right under our noses.

    Extra Info on RKBA in Florida's Constitution (via FSU Law's FL Constitution History)

    Circa 1868 (I, 22):
    The people shall have the right to bear arms in defense of themselves and of the lawful authority of the State.


    Circa 1885 (I, 20):
    The right of the people to bear arms in defense of themselves and the lawful authority of the State, shall not be infringed, but the Legislature may prescribe the manner in which they may be borne.


    Circa 1968 (I, 8 ):
    Right to Bear Arms. The right of the people to keep and bear arms in defense of themselves and of the lawful authority of the state shall not be infringed, except that the manner of bearing arms may be regulated by law.


    1990-Today (I, 8 ):
    Right to Bear Arms.

    (a) The right of the people to keep and bear arms in defense of themselves and of the lawful authority of the state shall not be infringed, except that the manner of bearing arms may be regulated by law.

    (b) There shall be a mandatory period of three days, excluding weekends and legal holidays, between the purchase and delivery at retail of any handgun. For the purposes of this section, "purchase" means the transfer of money or other valuable consideration to the retailer, and "handgun" means a firearm capable of being carried and used by one hand, such as a pistol or revolver. Holders of a concealed weapon permit as prescribed in Florida law shall not be subject to the provisions of this paragraph.

    (c) The legislature shall enact legislation implementing subsection (b) of this section, effective no later than December 31, 1991, which shall provide that anyone violating the provisions of subsection (b) shall be guilty of a felony.

    (d) This restriction shall not apply to trade in of another handgun.

    [Comments are closed after a month.]

    Response to Robb
    Ken S, Fifth String on the Banjo of Life, 1/17/08 9:23:14 am
    Beautiful! Manual Trackback™

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