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    Greg and Beth

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    The ACLU on Heller Comment
    Gregory Morris, 7/2/08 9:16:53 am
    I like what Sebastian is saying here. I agree 100%. The ACLU is being hypocritical here, on what has become a very clear-cut issue. Instead of promoting and protecting our "Civil Liberties" they are ignoring an enumerated right, that is arguably more important and clearly defined than the right to vote!

    I hate seeing an organization that has done so much good work protecting unpopular speech go down the road of liberal hackery. I'm willing to forgive their previous stance on the issue, simply because there really was no clear court precedent. They were wrong before, but they have a chance now to correct their stance and join the right side. Instead, they choose to stick their head into the sand, and deny that the Supreme Court's ruling was correct! Even though ALL NINE JUSTICES agree that the Second Amendment enumerates an INDIVIDUAL RIGHT.

    So, until they see the light on this issue: Not One Dime. My money is going to the organizations that say they support my rights, and ACTUALLY DO IT.

    Update:
    The post at the ACLU Blog has quite a few comments (88 at last count). Every single one of them disagrees with the ACLU's stance on the Second Amendment.

    [Comments are closed after a month.]

    Re: The ACLU on Heller
    Kevin Baker, 7/2/08 8:45:45 am
    They're just remaining consistent with former ACLU President Nadine Strossen's analysis: "(O)ur view has never been that civil liberties are necessarily coextensive with constitutional rights. Conversely, I guess the fact that something is mentioned in the Constitution doesn't necessarily mean that it is a fundamental civil liberty."

    Mentioned in the Constitution? It's the freaking SECOND AMENDMENT! And now the Supreme Court has declared that the right is an INDIVIDUAL ONE, and STILL they decline to protect it.
    Re: The ACLU on Heller
    Gregory Morris, 7/2/08 10:03:56 am
    Oh, I agree. There position hasn't changed on the matter of equating "civil liberties" to "constitutional rights". In a way, I agree with them as well. Just because a document written hundreds of years ago says X doesn't make X true. I'm not one to apply religious reverence to our founding fathers, who, after all, were fallible human beings.

    However, it is hard to argue that the right to self defense, or the right overthrow a tyrannical government are not fundamental rights that exist outside of the constitution (even more so than the right to free speech.)

    The problem is that the ACLU takes choice pieces of the constitution, as well as relevant court rulings, as gospel. So saying, "civil liberties are [not] necessarily coextensive with constitutional rights" is not factually incorrect, but they are merely using it as a leftist line-item veto on which civil liberties are "important".
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